Help with build
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Help with build
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First of all let me introduce myself as this is my first post. My name is Callum and I am from sunny Perth, Western Australia. I had never heard of raspberry pi up until a couple of weeks ago and have been obsessed with making a GBZ ever since seeing the video of it. I have been stalking this forum gathering all the info I need and to get my head around a subject I'd known nothing about whatsoever. Luckily I stumbled upon the wiki page which has been very helpful with the parts list and I have begun purchasing parts slowly. It can be a bit tough when your in Oz as the shipping is a killer.
I have a question that hopefully you can help me with. I am tackling the build with a empty shell/case I'm getting from ebay so there are no pre-existing parts inside. I am wondering what parts do I need to order (that aernt on the wiki parts list) because Ive got an empty shell?
I really appreciate your help and the great resource that this forum provides.
Regards,
Callum
First of all let me introduce myself as this is my first post. My name is Callum and I am from sunny Perth, Western Australia. I had never heard of raspberry pi up until a couple of weeks ago and have been obsessed with making a GBZ ever since seeing the video of it. I have been stalking this forum gathering all the info I need and to get my head around a subject I'd known nothing about whatsoever. Luckily I stumbled upon the wiki page which has been very helpful with the parts list and I have begun purchasing parts slowly. It can be a bit tough when your in Oz as the shipping is a killer.
I have a question that hopefully you can help me with. I am tackling the build with a empty shell/case I'm getting from ebay so there are no pre-existing parts inside. I am wondering what parts do I need to order (that aernt on the wiki parts list) because Ive got an empty shell?
I really appreciate your help and the great resource that this forum provides.
Regards,
Callum
Re: Help with build
Hi! I guess it depends, if you only buy the shell you will be missing the buttons. But I am guessing you will also have the default
Gameboy buttons. If you want to make the extra buttons available for, for example snes games, you can use an NES or SNES controller.
See the wiki: http://sudomod.com/wiki/index.php?title=GBZ_Buttons
Furthermore you might want to install a speaker, a mini-jack for connecting headphones (same as with original Gameboy) and
an amplifier with a volume wheel. And ofcourse an on/off switch
Happy building!
Gameboy buttons. If you want to make the extra buttons available for, for example snes games, you can use an NES or SNES controller.
See the wiki: http://sudomod.com/wiki/index.php?title=GBZ_Buttons
Furthermore you might want to install a speaker, a mini-jack for connecting headphones (same as with original Gameboy) and
an amplifier with a volume wheel. And ofcourse an on/off switch
Happy building!
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After following cannikin's ideas on cutting up the original board with the cartridge reader, the sound wheel, and the on/off switch, my opinion is that you really should get an original board. Those are 3 very essential pieces and cutting the board lays them out in the perfect positions.
You also require button wells which you can get by cutting up a second case or from the nes/snes controller. They're the things around the button that hold the buttons and the rubber contact point in place.
I think you can get an original gameboy boards without getting an actual gameboy, but i wouldn't know where to do so.
You also require button wells which you can get by cutting up a second case or from the nes/snes controller. They're the things around the button that hold the buttons and the rubber contact point in place.
I think you can get an original gameboy boards without getting an actual gameboy, but i wouldn't know where to do so.
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Not stepping on toes, but I sort of disagree here. There are quite a few builds that are not using the original board that is quite successful. In fact, prerunnerseth is creating a whole line of new PCB boards just for the GBZ. Not having all original parts does take a little more work, and a little more ingenity, but they're quite possible. Don't stop a project because you can't get ahold of a damaged one. The parts are out there that you need, and spend some time in the show-off corner looking at other people's builds.Ganreizu wrote:After following cannikin's ideas on cutting up the original board with the cartridge reader, the sound wheel, and the on/off switch, my opinion is that you really should get an original board. Those are 3 very essential pieces and cutting the board lays them out in the perfect positions.
You also require button wells which you can get by cutting up a second case or from the nes/snes controller. They're the things around the button that hold the buttons and the rubber contact point in place.
I think you can get an original Gameboy boards without getting an actual Gameboy, but I wouldn't know where to do so.
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Oh no i'm not at all saying it's required to do that and you're stupid to do anything else or use not original parts, just that i think it's far easier to have those components laid out in the exact positions without gluing as much. I scrapped a lot of my original parts exactly because they were original and therefore dirty as hell and i would want new ones. He stated that he's completely new to every aspect of this project just like i am so i made a suggestion that i think would make the process easiest, but that's more of a subjective point of course. I'm sure using replacement parts without a PCB to hold it all together could be just as easy and i wouldn't know. :/Kilren wrote:Not stepping on toes, but I sort of disagree here. There are quite a few builds that are not using the original board that is quite successful. In fact, prerunnerseth is creating a whole line of new PCB boards just for the GBZ. Not having all original parts does take a little more work, and a little more ingenity, but they're quite possible. Don't stop a project because you can't get ahold of a damaged one. The parts are out there that you need, and spend some time in the show-off corner looking at other people's builds.
Once prerunnerseth's boards are on the market though i'm sure those will be far easier than subjecting yourself to having to cut down, desolder, and otherwise deal with a PCB from the 80s lol.
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Yeah, the OP will definitely need to get a sense of what potential/capability they have and then proceed from there. My biggest point is for the OP to figure out which one is better for him. Both are quite viable. Do you want to do more soldering and arranging, or do you want to do more cutting? Both are great, just pick one and stick with it until you finish.Ganreizu wrote:He stated that he's completely new to every aspect of this project just like i am so i made a suggestion that i think would make the process easiest, but that's more of a subjective point of course.
Once prerunnerseth's boards are on the market though i'm sure those will be far easier than subjecting yourself to having to cut down, desolder, and otherwise deal with a PCB from the 80s lol.
It'll be the day when you buy four pieces, the shell, the RPi, and prerunnerseth's two boards.
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Yeah what you've said here is something i think i will miss once we start getting the project more streamlined. All of the solutions so far are so pro vs con that i've felt a small amount of despair at straying from the guides but I definitely just need to suck it up and continue on no matter what especially after investing so hard. I have gotten better at desoldering/soldering after cutting up that original board and those new skills are the best part of this kind of endeavor.Kilren wrote:Yeah, the OP will definitely need to get a sense of what potential/capability they have and then proceed from there. My biggest point is for the OP to figure out which one is better for him. Both are quite viable. Do you want to do more soldering and arranging, or do you want to do more cutting? Both are great, just pick one and stick with it until you finish.
It'll be the day when you buy four pieces, the shell, the RPi, and prerunnerseth's two boards.
More on topic: If you don't want to get an original GB you should look into getting the gameboy player for the cartridge reader since everything else is completely replaceable. I can't find a standalone cartridge reader online but it's obviously necessary if you want to do the cartridge SD card mod.
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Re: Help with build
Hi
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate how helpful everyone has been. My main concern is to do with the parts my case wont come with. For example the volume control, what do I need to order for this? a pontentiometer? Then there is the power swith, headphone jack etc
Does anyone have a list of these parts that I need when using an empty shell?
Another thing is battery indicator led, does the gbz build incorporate this? Something to indicate when the battery needs recharging?
Thanks again
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate how helpful everyone has been. My main concern is to do with the parts my case wont come with. For example the volume control, what do I need to order for this? a pontentiometer? Then there is the power swith, headphone jack etc
Does anyone have a list of these parts that I need when using an empty shell?
Another thing is battery indicator led, does the gbz build incorporate this? Something to indicate when the battery needs recharging?
Thanks again
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The very neatest thing about this project is the same thing that is your biggest enemy. Everything you've asked about, someone has done. The problem is that everything you want, no one person has done exactly the way you want it. It is a very personal project, and many many many sources for the parts and pieces are used. What I am getting at is that you can find the piece that somebody else used, but you have to go through the builds deciding what you like and what you don't like.callumsmith1989 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate how helpful everyone has been. My main concern is to do with the parts my case wont come with. For example the volume control, what do I need to order for this? a pontentiometer? Then there is the power swith, headphone jack etc
Does anyone have a list of these parts that I need when using an empty shell?
Another thing is battery indicator led, does the gbz build incorporate this? Something to indicate when the battery needs recharging?
Thanks again
Start simplest though. Get your screen, RPi0, and PCB for button input (whether an original PCB or one of the community-built ones) and maybe a Teensy LC if that's the way you're going. Get all of those working, then start adding the other essentials that aren't absolutely critical, like audio and power/battery after you know your foundation is working great.
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I made a wishlist on Adafruit for myself (here http://www.adafruit.com/wishlists/403183), which could probably help you and some other new people. It has most of the internal parts you would need to build one GBZ, including slide switch for power and a headphone jack. What is not included is:callumsmith1989 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate how helpful everyone has been. My main concern is to do with the parts my case wont come with. For example the volume control, what do I need to order for this? a pontentiometer? Then there is the power swith, headphone jack etc
Does anyone have a list of these parts that I need when using an empty shell?
Another thing is battery indicator led, does the gbz build incorporate this? Something to indicate when the battery needs recharging?
Thanks again
- - the volume dial, which I got here http://www.amazon.com/5-Pin-Linear-Whee ... B013FPKCMM
- USB hub (since there are so many choices for that, this is the one wermy used http://www.amazon.com/Targus-4-Port-Bla ... B0046TOQ8S)
- the right capacitors/resistors for audio out (had to go to a RadioShack for those)
- the main button board (lots of people on here are making their own that you can buy, and kitsch-bent makes a good one as well http://store.kitsch-bent.com/product/co ... -y-version)
- just for the halibut, here's where I got my case/buttons (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400835496615, ships from China)
As for the power indicator lights, the PowerBoost 1000C has 3 tiny LEDs on the board: one for power, one for charging, and one for low battery. I'm sure you could use fiber optic or somehow tap into the circuits to the LEDs.
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