Soldering Newbee.

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

Post by crispy_tofu » Sat May 07, 2016 12:30 am

BMBteke397 wrote:I know I am a little late to this conversation, but when I was first learning to solder with PCBs I found the best way was to just practice. I found some old broken electronics around the house and would spend some time just removing and re-soldering components. Like was said before, getting a good speed is important to achieving a good finished product, and the best way to get that speed is just developing the muscle memory. So, for people who are new and afraid they might mess up something with their DMG board, I would say get some practice time on junk boards to get a feel for it. A few feet of solder used for practice will be a lot cheaper than replacing a bricked board from jumping the gun.

Second piece of advice would be to get a decent iron with some good tips. If a project like the Game Boy Zero scratches an itch for you and you see yourself doing some future projects, then a good iron will go a long way.
I agree wholeheartedly with this.
In regards to a good iron, I recommend getting a temperature-controlled soldering station and not just one that plugs straight into the wall. Many of the cheaper irons also can't heat up fast enough to heat some large joints or a large ground plane, which could be an issue as it leaves cold (brittle) joints behind. On the other side of the spectrum, the cheap non-temperature controlled irons could even be way too hot for a good solder joint - they can boil the flux that allows the solder to 'wet' nicely, and possibly injure you as the flux can spit.
The most common recommendation for a soldering station is the Hakko FX888D or the Weller WES51D - they aren't the cheapest, but you can get reliable performance and not get a broken iron right before your last joint. There are also plenty of cheaper clone stations on the internet that are marginally better than the plug-in irons, like the soldering station from HobbyKing (tip: wait a little bit before buying, the price goes down on the website).
But if it's a one-off job, like BMBteke397 said, it probably won't be worth your time to invest in a good station. However, soldering becomes more difficult to do properly with these irons and it'll take a bit of practice. :)

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

Post by Zapfhahn » Sun May 08, 2016 4:30 am

crispy_tofu wrote:
Zapfhahn wrote:Im having big trouble soldering the cable onto the copper trails. I have quite a bit experience in soldering but the cable just wont stick to the board. Do I need a special soldering tin (dunno if its the correct word, the stuff that melts)? I scratched of the green paint on the tracers until I saw copper.
You shouldn't need a special solder. What soldering iron do you have? It might be struggling to heat up the pads due to a large ground plane or something...

It says Pb38 Sn60 Cu 2

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

Post by crispy_tofu » Sun May 08, 2016 4:32 am

Zapfhahn wrote:
crispy_tofu wrote:
Zapfhahn wrote:Im having big trouble soldering the cable onto the copper trails. I have quite a bit experience in soldering but the cable just wont stick to the board. Do I need a special soldering tin (dunno if its the correct word, the stuff that melts)? I scratched of the green paint on the tracers until I saw copper.
You shouldn't need a special solder. What soldering iron do you have? It might be struggling to heat up the pads due to a large ground plane or something...

It says Pb38 Sn60 Cu 2
That should be fine. I was wondering if your soldering iron was strong enough to heat the joints. What type of soldering iron do you have? :)

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

Post by hykote » Sun May 08, 2016 8:54 am

I've royally screwed up my board during this process, really struggled to solder (which I am a novice) to which the traces don't even work now. Does anyone have any advice on moving forward, or an alternative way to set up the buttons still using the teensy board but just not incorporating the original circuit board?

Would salvaging an old nes controller and using that work best?

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Re: Soldering Newbee.

Post by ktechelonbreak » Sun May 08, 2016 9:56 am

hykote wrote:I've royally screwed up my board during this process, really struggled to solder (which I am a novice) to which the traces don't even work now. Does anyone have any advice on moving forward, or an alternative way to set up the buttons still using the teensy board but just not incorporating the original circuit board?

Would salvaging an old nes controller and using that work best?
A few people were selling custom PCBs in the buy and trade section of the forum. The easiest out is to consider buying one of those boards, the contact points are much bigger and they are pre-solder ready (solder will stick much easier to them). It will also be much neater looking and make for easier cable management. As always, for soldering wire to contact points, use stranded wire and rosin core solder or have flux on hand.

http://www.sudomod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28

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